Kirjoittaja Aihe: Vallankumous  (Luettu 2818 kertaa)

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« Vastaus #15 : Elokuu 16, 2013, 22:41 »
Eikös teidän penskojen kannattaisi ensin perehtyä vallankaappauksen teoriaan vaikka Luttwakin "vallankaappauksen käsikirjan" ja historiallisten esimerkkien valossa. Egyptissä on aito case-stydy meneillään, josta huomaamme että vähänkään kehittyneemmässä poliittisessa sysdeemissä kaappauksesta on turha haaveilla ilman että merkittävä osa väkivaltakoneistoja on solutettu kumouksen puolelle. Jotkut salafistit vaan ovat niin totaalisen idioottia porukkaa etteivät tajua milloin peli on menetetty sotilaallisesti, jolloin kumoustoiminta pitäisi suunnata maanalaiseen solutukseen ja propagandaan. Egypti mitä luultavammin seuraa Algerian esimerkkiä ja suistuu vuosikausia jatkuvaan väkivallan kierteeseen. Jonkun Suomen tapauksessa kannattaa sitten varautua ulkovaltojen sotilaallisiin interventioihin, etenkin NATOn taholta.
 
Joo ja sitä verta on sitten oltava myös valmis vuodattamaan siekailematta vihollisten tuhoamiseksi kuten esim. Leninin toiminnasta huomaamme.

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« Vastaus #16 : Elokuu 17, 2013, 18:37 »
Kysehän nimenomaan ei ole vallankaappauksestta vaan vallankumouksesta. Vallankaappaus, kun todennäköisesti säilyttää saman ideologian ja juurikin itsetuhoon johtavan talousideologian kumoamiselle olisi tarvetta. Tällöin valtiojohdon tasolla leikkiminen on juurikin niin turhaa kuin mitä egyptistä voidaan päätellä.
If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so. - Thomas Jefferson

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« Vastaus #17 : Elokuu 19, 2013, 20:28 »
En olisi myöskään kovin varma siitä kannattaako vallankumousta varsinaisesti kuitenkaan tehdä. Terveellisempää kaikillehan olisi uhata vallankumouksella niin, että johtovan eliitin olisi pakko toimia vastuullisemmin. Tosin silloin uhan pitäisi olla realistinen, eikä sekään välttämättä riittäisi, kun ei tuolla arabikeväässäkään kuitenkaan ole ilmeisesti saatu uhattua muuta kuin sitä kuka nukeista istuu milloinkin valtaistuimella.
If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so. - Thomas Jefferson

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« Vastaus #18 : Syyskuu 05, 2013, 13:54 »
No, mutta skitsofrenia höpötykset sikseen eli katsoin siis ton Four Horsemen eilen Docventurissa ja aika pahaa kuvaahan ne esitti joten päätin aloittaa taas Allukratian eli jos ihmisiä nappaa, niin tossa teksti:

How the world could be changed towards better?

 It is actually pretty simple. It's about making all the necessities of life free for all. Necessities such as food, water and shelter. It's about giving all the people a card which they can buy the necessities of life like the 2000-2500 kcal which is needed for all people as food. Of course with the card people should be also able to buy everyday items which are needed to uphold the living but they couldn't buy things like Alcohol and if organic drugs such Marihuana would be legalized, well, people couldn't buy those things also.

 The card that would be given to people would work in socialism. This is about mixing socialism and capitalism. Then there would be money which would be about capitalism. For someone to gain money he/she would have to go to work. By working you gain money and with money you can by stuff for yourself and also Alcohol and possibly Marihuana. If someone wanted to fly to a different country on a aeroplane he/she would have to work for it. If someone would want to go and have a nice meal in a restaurant he/she would have to work for it. And so on... The whole point of this system is that for people to gain benefits they would have to work.

 Why this system is good?

 The key is to understand that with people having food, water and shelter guaranteed then people would only go to work when they need something more. People would consume the world less. Like for example car, a car would need money to uphold it so those who would be living in the socialism (having food, water and shelter), well, they would have to use the public transportation. It would pollute less. Some people wouldn't care about working since they could easily live by the necessities of life and therefore they wouldn't consume the planet hardly at all.

 So in this system people would go to work when they would need something and then they could go back of being unemployed and could live with the necessities of life and also with the money that they had earned. It would turn the whole world of us being slaves to money to something much more.

 And of course to the rich people. The key is to understand that it wouldn't be a problem that rich people would earn more then the rest since all would have the necessities of life. It wouldn't matter if someone would be a billionaire because the person would have owned it all because of hard work. In this system rich people could be looked up to and all the people who would have more since they would have contributed to the society.

 The U.N.?

 Well, the whole point would be that U.N. could be made into a system that would distribute food to all countries equally. With everyone having the necessities of life there wouldn't be need for wars, there wouldn't be poverty and there wouldn't be over-population since in the Third World Countries there wouldn't be need for the families to have many children to hope that one or two would get a job. It would be a step towards One World Government.

 Allucracy?

 I like to call the whole thing Allucracy where the socialism and capitalism is combined. The world could be easily changed into a game of monopoly where people start with food, water and shelter and then start to gain more and more to themselves by working. There is no need to make people into slaves for money. There isn't need that rich people would have to loose their wealth. Everyone would gain from this system!

Ja tossa sivusto. En mä nyt ajattele, että pakosti moni tota ymmärtääkään kuinka nerokas systeemi se todellisuudessa on, mutta ainahan voi yrittää...

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